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1 == **2nd Workshop on Sustainability in the Digital Transformation of Basic Research on Universe & Matter (2025)** ==
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6 === **What happened so far: ** ===
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8 * 2023: In-person Workshop:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/37480/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/37480/]]
9 * 2024: Follow up paper and online meetings
10 ** Publication:[[ https:~~/~~/arxiv.org/abs/2311.01169>>url:https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.01169]]  Last sustainability workshop paper: [[https:~~/~~/doi.org/10.1140/epjs/s11734-024-01436-4>>url:https://doi.org/10.1140/epjs/s11734-024-01436-4]]
11 ** Online Discussion:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/44490/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/44490/]]
12 ** Online Discussion:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/45927/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/45927/]]
13 * **2025: In-person Workshop: [[https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/47133/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/47133/]] **
14 ** **28 July - 1 August 2024**
15 ** **(Erholungsgesellschaft) Aachen**
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17 === **Meeting documentation: ** ===
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19 **First Meeting with the Program Committee 19.02.2025**
20 Participation: Jan Bürger, Markus Demleitner, Günter Duckeck, Martin Erdmann, Benjamin Fischer, Martin Gasthuber, Thomas Kuhr, Judith Reindl, Markus Schumacher, Judith Steinfeld, Dwayne Spiteri, Achim Streit, Angela Warkentin, Sebastian Wozniewski
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22 * [[Brainstorming document>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S7DN9xc_zbogT9byt44xSCm0hpBDPFNy5b20U5a2HU8/edit?tab=t.0]]
23 * [[Slides>>attach:Program Planning Meeting, Feb 19.pdf]]
24 * [[attach:preparation-slides.pdf||target="_blank"]]
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28 **Second Meeting with the Program Committee 11.03.2025**
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30 * Tuesday, March 11 from 4 - 5:30 pm: [[https:~~/~~/rwth.zoom-x.de/j/65088391540>>https://rwth.zoom-x.de/j/65088391540]]
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36 == **Second Meeting with the Program Committee 11.03.2025** ==
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38 === **Regarding Goals ** ===
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42 **Goals**
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44 **(Up to discussion on March, 11) **
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50 |(% style="width:268px" %)**Definition**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What exactly is meant by “sustainability”|Achim S., Judith R.
51 |(% style="width:268px" %)**Track Progress / Review**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What is the concrete progress since the last workshop, what worked, what not.|Thomas K, Judith R.
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53 **Verbindung zwischen**
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55 **Review und Outlook **
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57 **(//Connection/Linking//)**
58 )))|(% style="width:1019px" %)Based on input from referees I think one topic is whether we should collect data to effectively represent progress|
59 |(% style="width:1019px" %)A paper detailing how to combat the practicalities of tackling sustainability issues (in Germany)|
60 |(% rowspan="4" style="width:268px" %)**Outlook & Concrete Recommendation for Action**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What new ansatzes (//approaches//) exist, what should we try|Achim S.
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62 Konkrete Empfehlungen ans BMBF bzw. Projekte als einige white papers.
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67 Bildung von Fokusgruppen zur Umsetzung gefundener Leitlinien aus mehreren Projekten, über den Workshop hinaus. (z.B. Connect Workshop 2024)
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69 //Formation of focus groups for the implementation of identified guidelines from multiple projects, beyond the workshop (e.g. Connect Workshop 2024)//
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72 Prüfsteine für einen dritten Workshop, der die Umsetzung der Fokusgruppen überprüfen kann.
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74 //Criteria for a third workshop that can assess the implementation of the focus groups.//
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81 * Last workshop was impulse, this should enable implementation by developing concrete action points.
82 * Focus is on implementation
83 * Do we need a paper? How can the results be optimally prepared?
84 * At the end, concrete measures should emerge and be recorded (e.g. white paper, without publication, but with the aim of disseminating the measures widely)
85 * Concrete assignments: Show on DPG, concrete “tasks” with responsible persons (to be reported, e.g. to Overview Board or next year in the workshop)
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89 === **Regarding Contents ** ===
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97 **What do we want to cover in terms of content? **
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99 (//**Subgroups 2023:** Footprint, Dynamic Energy Supply, Hardware Lifetime, Hardware & Algorithms, Smart Data, Cultural Change, Autonomization, Inquiries & Dynamics, Algorithms & Software, Machine Models, Injected Intelligence, Workflows & Stakeholders//)
100 )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Author / Contact (optional)
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104 Footprint with regards to hardware
105 )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)How to handle CO2-budget of the production of the hardware (+1)|(% style="width:222px" %)Achim Stahl, support by Markus Sch (may contact Öko Institut e.V.)
106 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Ethical implications of Life Cycle analysis (where machines are made - where they end up)|(% style="width:222px" %)
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108 Operation of Data Centres /
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111 )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainable operation of compute and data centres |(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Sch.
112 |(% style="width:1011px" %)How can we integrate datacentres/experiments with their environments|(% style="width:222px" %)
113 |(% style="width:1011px" %)What metrics are we use to decide how clean energy is/ optimal time for greenest use of energy|(% style="width:222px" %)
114 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Von Stromerzeugenden und Netzbetreibern Input bekommen, was wir eigentlich tun sollen. BnetzAgentur beiholen?|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum1)
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116 Sustainable Programming & Implications / User
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119 )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainable programming is a topic frequently requested by the community. How can we drive this forward? |(% style="width:222px" %)Angela Warkentin
120 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Ethical question: if software gets more efficient by factor n will then e.g. simualtion run factor n more or will stop after initial goal reached?    |(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Schh.
121 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen?  Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1)
122 |(% rowspan="4" %)Motivation & Ethics |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen?  Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %)
123 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Introductions to Ethics and/in Sustainability|(% style="width:222px" %)
124 |(% style="width:1011px" %)UN sustainability points and the impact to physics|(% style="width:222px" %)
125 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability Communication: how to spread motivation among scientists |(% style="width:222px" %)
126 |(% rowspan="5" %)Politics & Stakeholder|(% style="width:1011px" %)Mit BMBF-Leuten darüber reden, wie wir unsere Erkenntnisse umgesetzt bekommen|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1)
127 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Allgemeiner: Leitlinien für konkretes Handeln mit den Stakeholdern ausarbeiten.|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1)
128 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Umgang mit politischen Zwängen (“wir gehen nicht nach Polen, weil deren Strom so dreckig ist” bzw. die Zurückweisung so einer Erwägung aus politischen Gründen)? (Or: If we fund it here we also want to run it here and not in Norway, Iceland ,... )|(% style="width:222px" %)
129 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Political barriers to sustainability (local laws/regulations)|(% style="width:222px" %)
130 |(% style="width:1011px" %)What does the BMBF expect? (Invite BMBF representative) |(% style="width:222px" %)
131 |(% rowspan="4" %)Teaching & Science |(% style="width:1011px" %)In view of abilities of Humans versus Machines (see table below): how will ErUM science change in future|(% style="width:222px" %)Martin E.
132 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Knowledge transfer, education, what concepts will stay to be important, what will be new|(% style="width:222px" %)Judith Reindl, Martin E.
133 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen?  Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %)
134 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability Communication: how to spread motivation among scientists |(% style="width:222px" %)
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139 === **Regarding Timetable ** ===
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142 * What should the program consist of?
143 * Should we open the workshop for contributions (abstracts) or only include invited talks?
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147 * Talks, discussion and interactive parts
148 ** Interactive part: tutorial on sustainable programming
149 * Inspiration talks for fostering our creativity, followed by the possibility to discuss and exchange. Results of the discussion could then be presented in short talks
150 * Talks in the morning,** paper-writing sessions in the afternoon.**
151 ** Different sessions have different sections to work on in Overleaf
152 ** Paper writing / Results: One moderator per session, who is also responsible for detailed documentation
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160 * ** **Find & Invite Experts from Organisations (CERN, DESY, BMBF): Anwendungsorientierte (application-oriented) Talks
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169 |(% colspan="1" rowspan="3" %)**General **|(% style="width:1011px" %)International sustainability projects in science (WLCG, EU, …)|(% style="width:222px" %)
170 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Overview of ideas in SUSFECIT research network (proposal handed in 2024 ErumM Data call)|(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Schumacher
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173 Paper presentation: "Quantifying imperfect cognition with realized information gain"
174 )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Torsten Ensslin (Confirmed Participation)
175 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Know your footprint: status and next steps |(% style="width:222px" %)KYF authors
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181 )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Full life cycle assessment of c02 footprint  (production, cooling water, disposal)  |(% style="width:222px" %)could ask Öko-Institut e.V (Markus Sch,) or Matthias Wadenstein, WLCG
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193 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability implementation at major research  facilities e.g. CERN, DESY (e.g. Serge Claudet, Cern energy management panel)|(% style="width:222px" %)Guenter Duckeck
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201 |(% rowspan="4" %)**Motivation & Ethics **|(% style="width:1011px" %)(((
202 "Warum föderierte, standardsbasierte Infrastrukturen ethische Implikationen haben, sowohl was Vermeidung von Lock-in und ständiger Obszoleszenz betrifft als auch, was gleichen Zugang für alle, von Server- wie von Clientseite aus, angeht. (Abdeckung z.B. durch Markus Demleitner im Rahmen eines 10 Min Frühstückgesprächs möglich)"
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204 Why federated, standards-based infrastructures have ethical implications, both in terms of avoiding lock-in and constant obsolescence, as well as ensuring equal access for all, from both the server and client side. (Coverage, e.g., by Markus Demleitner in the context of a 10-minute breakfast discussion, is possible)
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207 * RWTH Aachen AI Center Ethik Kommission: [[https:~~/~~/www.ai.rwth-aachen.de/cms/KI/Das-KI-Center/~~~~gglha/Team/>>url:https://www.ai.rwth-aachen.de/cms/KI/Das-KI-Center/~~gglha/Team/]] 
208 ** [[Prof. h.c. Dr. h.c. Dr. ir. Wil van der Aalst>>url:https://www.pads.rwth-aachen.de/cms/pads/der-lehrstuhl/team/professor/~~pxtb/wil-van-der-aalst/]]: Fairness und Privacy
209 ** [[Prof. Dr. Saskia Nagel>>url:https://www.ethics.rwth-aachen.de/cms/ETHICS/Das-Lehr-und-Forschungsgebiet/Team/~~fcnwz/Saskia-Nagel/]] Ethics of AI, Impact of AI on Individuals and Society
210 ** [[Prof. Dr. rer. pol. Frank Piller>>url:https://www.time.rwth-aachen.de/cms/TIME/Die-Research-Area/Technologie-und-Innovationsmanagement-/TIM-Team/Lehrstuhlinhaber/~~eebc/Piller-Frank-T/]] Social Effects and Acceptance of AI
211 ** [[Prof. Dr. rer. nat. Astrid Rosenthal-von der Pütten>>url:https://www.itec.rwth-aachen.de/cms/ITEC/Der-Lehrstuhl/Team/~~szbg/Rosenthal-von-der-Puetten-Astrid/]] Human-Agent Interaction · Human and AI Shared Decision Making · Human-Robot Interaction · Social Effects and Acceptance of AI
212 ** [[Prof. Dr. Claudia Wagner>>url:http://claudiawagner.info/]] Natural Language processing · Network Science · Computational Social Science · Fairness of AI
213 * Benediktiner Pater Christoph Gerhard (Sustainability and ethics)
214 * Johannes Hartel (Sustainability and ethics)
215 * “Lesch sieht Schwartz” (zdf Harald Lesch und Pfarrer Thomas Schwartz)
216 * Prof. Dr. Dr. Wolfgang Rhode
217 )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Jan Bürger
218 |(% style="width:1011px" %)Invite someone from the Deutscher Ethikrat talking about assessment of technologies in the domain of “AI++”|(% style="width:222px" %)Achim Streit, Martin Erdmann, Thomas Kuhr, Judith Reindl
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