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1 | == **2nd Workshop on Sustainability in the Digital Transformation of Basic Research on Universe & Matter (2025)** == | ||
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7 | === **What happened so far: ** === | ||
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9 | * 2023: In-person Workshop:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/37480/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/37480/]] | ||
10 | * 2024: Follow up paper and online meetings | ||
11 | ** Publication:[[ https:~~/~~/arxiv.org/abs/2311.01169>>url:https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.01169]] Last sustainability workshop paper: [[https:~~/~~/doi.org/10.1140/epjs/s11734-024-01436-4>>url:https://doi.org/10.1140/epjs/s11734-024-01436-4]] | ||
12 | ** Online Discussion:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/44490/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/44490/]] | ||
13 | ** Online Discussion:[[ https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/45927/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/45927/]] | ||
14 | * **2025: In-person Workshop: [[https:~~/~~/indico.desy.de/event/47133/>>url:https://indico.desy.de/event/47133/]] ** | ||
15 | ** **28 July - 1 August 2024** | ||
16 | ** **(Erholungsgesellschaft) Aachen** | ||
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18 | === **Meeting documentation: ** === | ||
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20 | **First Meeting with the Program Committee 19.02.2025** | ||
21 | Participation: Jan Bürger, Markus Demleitner, Günter Duckeck, Martin Erdmann, Benjamin Fischer, Martin Gasthuber, Thomas Kuhr, Judith Reindl, Markus Schumacher, Judith Steinfeld, Dwayne Spiteri, Achim Streit, Angela Warkentin, Sebastian Wozniewski | ||
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23 | * [[Brainstorming document>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S7DN9xc_zbogT9byt44xSCm0hpBDPFNy5b20U5a2HU8/edit?tab=t.0]] | ||
24 | * [[Slides>>attach:Program Planning Meeting, Feb 19.pdf]] | ||
25 | * [[attach:preparation-slides.pdf||target="_blank"]] | ||
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29 | **Second Meeting with the Program Committee 11.03.2025** | ||
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31 | * Tuesday, March 11 from 4 - 5:30 pm: [[https:~~/~~/rwth.zoom-x.de/j/65088391540>>https://rwth.zoom-x.de/j/65088391540]] | ||
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38 | == **Second Meeting with the Program Committee 11.03.2025** == | ||
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40 | === **Regarding Goals ** === | ||
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44 | **Goals** | ||
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46 | **(Up to discussion on March, 11) ** | ||
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50 | Author / Contact (optional) | ||
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52 | |(% style="width:268px" %)**Definition**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What exactly is meant by “sustainability”|Achim S., Judith R. | ||
53 | |(% style="width:268px" %)**Track Progress / Review**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What is the concrete progress since the last workshop, what worked, what not.|Thomas K, Judith R. | ||
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55 | **Verbindung zwischen** | ||
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57 | **Review und Outlook ** | ||
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59 | **(//Connection/Linking//)** | ||
60 | )))|(% style="width:1019px" %)Based on input from referees I think one topic is whether we should collect data to effectively represent progress| | ||
61 | |(% style="width:1019px" %)A paper detailing how to combat the practicalities of tackling sustainability issues (in Germany)| | ||
62 | |(% rowspan="4" style="width:268px" %)**Outlook & Concrete Recommendation for Action**|(% style="width:1019px" %)What new ansatzes (//approaches//) exist, what should we try|Achim S. | ||
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64 | Konkrete Empfehlungen ans BMBF bzw. Projekte als einige white papers. | ||
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66 | (//Concrete recommendations to the BMBF and projects in the form of white papers//) | ||
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69 | Bildung von Fokusgruppen zur Umsetzung gefundener Leitlinien aus mehreren Projekten, über den Workshop hinaus. (z.B. Connect Workshop 2024) | ||
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71 | //Formation of focus groups for the implementation of identified guidelines from multiple projects, beyond the workshop (e.g. Connect Workshop 2024)// | ||
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74 | Prüfsteine für einen dritten Workshop, der die Umsetzung der Fokusgruppen überprüfen kann. | ||
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76 | //Criteria for a third workshop that can assess the implementation of the focus groups.// | ||
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81 | **Goals: ** | ||
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83 | * Last workshop was impulse, this should enable implementation by developing concrete action points. | ||
84 | * Focus is on implementation | ||
85 | * Do we need a paper? How can the results be optimally prepared? | ||
86 | * At the end, concrete measures should emerge and be recorded (e.g. white paper, without publication, but with the aim of disseminating the measures widely) | ||
87 | * Concrete assignments: Show on DPG, concrete “tasks” with responsible persons (to be reported, e.g. to Overview Board or next year in the workshop) | ||
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91 | === **Regarding Contents ** === | ||
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95 | **Topics ** | ||
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97 | **(Up to discussion on March, 11) ** | ||
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99 | **What do we want to cover in terms of content? ** | ||
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101 | (//**Subgroups 2023:** Footprint, Dynamic Energy Supply, Hardware Lifetime, Hardware & Algorithms, Smart Data, Cultural Change, Autonomization, Inquiries & Dynamics, Algorithms & Software, Machine Models, Injected Intelligence, Workflows & Stakeholders//) | ||
102 | )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Author / Contact (optional) | ||
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104 | CO2 / | ||
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106 | Footprint with regards to hardware | ||
107 | )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)How to handle CO2-budget of the production of the hardware (+1)|(% style="width:222px" %)Achim Stahl, support by Markus Sch (may contact Öko Institut e.V.) | ||
108 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Ethical implications of Life Cycle analysis (where machines are made - where they end up)|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
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110 | Operation of Data Centres / | ||
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112 | Use of Energy | ||
113 | )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainable operation of compute and data centres |(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Sch. | ||
114 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)How can we integrate datacentres/experiments with their environments|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
115 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)What metrics are we use to decide how clean energy is/ optimal time for greenest use of energy|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
116 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Von Stromerzeugenden und Netzbetreibern Input bekommen, was wir eigentlich tun sollen. BnetzAgentur beiholen?|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum1) | ||
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118 | Sustainable Programming & Implications / User | ||
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121 | )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainable programming is a topic frequently requested by the community. How can we drive this forward? |(% style="width:222px" %)Angela Warkentin | ||
122 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Ethical question: if software gets more efficient by factor n will then e.g. simualtion run factor n more or will stop after initial goal reached? |(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Schh. | ||
123 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen? Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1) | ||
124 | |(% rowspan="4" %)Motivation & Ethics |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen? Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
125 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Introductions to Ethics and/in Sustainability|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
126 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)UN sustainability points and the impact to physics|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
127 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability Communication: how to spread motivation among scientists |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
128 | |(% rowspan="5" %)Politics & Stakeholder|(% style="width:1011px" %)Mit BMBF-Leuten darüber reden, wie wir unsere Erkenntnisse umgesetzt bekommen|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1) | ||
129 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Allgemeiner: Leitlinien für konkretes Handeln mit den Stakeholdern ausarbeiten.|(% style="width:222px" %)(Raum 1) | ||
130 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Umgang mit politischen Zwängen (“wir gehen nicht nach Polen, weil deren Strom so dreckig ist” bzw. die Zurückweisung so einer Erwägung aus politischen Gründen)? (Or: If we fund it here we also want to run it here and not in Norway, Iceland ,... )|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
131 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Political barriers to sustainability (local laws/regulations)|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
132 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)What does the BMBF expect? (Invite BMBF representative) |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
133 | |(% rowspan="4" %)Teaching & Science |(% style="width:1011px" %)In view of abilities of Humans versus Machines (see table below): how will ErUM science change in future|(% style="width:222px" %)Martin E. | ||
134 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Knowledge transfer, education, what concepts will stay to be important, what will be new|(% style="width:222px" %)Judith Reindl, Martin E. | ||
135 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Wie managen mir die Wirkungen auf die Nutzenden, so dass diese mitgehen? Wie können wir für diese Motivation schaffen?|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
136 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability Communication: how to spread motivation among scientists |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
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141 | === **Regarding Timetable ** === | ||
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144 | * What should the program consist of? | ||
145 | * Should we open the workshop for contributions (abstracts) or only include invited talks? | ||
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147 | **Ideas so far: ** | ||
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149 | * Talks, discussion and interactive parts | ||
150 | ** Interactive part: tutorial on sustainable programming | ||
151 | * Inspiration talks for fostering our creativity, followed by the possibility to discuss and exchange. Results of the discussion could then be presented in short talks | ||
152 | * Talks in the morning,** paper-writing sessions in the afternoon.** | ||
153 | ** Different sessions have different sections to work on in Overleaf | ||
154 | ** Paper writing / Results: One moderator per session, who is also responsible for detailed documentation | ||
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159 | === **Regarding Invitations / Speaker** === | ||
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162 | * ** **Find & Invite Experts from Organisations (CERN, DESY, BMBF): Anwendungsorientierte (application-oriented) Talks | ||
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166 | |((( | ||
167 | **Topics ** | ||
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170 | )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Author / Contact (optional) | ||
171 | |(% colspan="1" rowspan="3" %)**General **|(% style="width:1011px" %)International sustainability projects in science (WLCG, EU, …)|(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
172 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Overview of ideas in SUSFECIT research network (proposal handed in 2024 ErumM Data call)|(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Schumacher | ||
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174 | |(% colspan="1" rowspan="3" %)**Tracking Progress **|(% style="width:1011px" %)((( | ||
175 | Paper presentation: "Quantifying imperfect cognition with realized information gain" | ||
176 | )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Torsten Ensslin (Confirmed Participation) | ||
177 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Know your footprint: status and next steps |(% style="width:222px" %)KYF authors | ||
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180 | **CO2 /** | ||
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182 | **Footprint with regards to hardware ** | ||
183 | )))|(% style="width:1011px" %)Full life cycle assessment of c02 footprint (production, cooling water, disposal) |(% style="width:222px" %)could ask Öko-Institut e.V (Markus Sch,) or Matthias Wadenstein, WLCG | ||
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186 | **Operation of Data Centres /** | ||
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188 | **Use of Energy** | ||
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190 | Ecology: How computing centres fit into the local surroundings | ||
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192 | * Re-using waste heat to provide heat for farming: vegetables | ||
193 | * Novel power sources for datacentres, building datacentres where power is being generated | ||
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195 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Sustainability implementation at major research facilities e.g. CERN, DESY (e.g. Serge Claudet, Cern energy management panel)|(% style="width:222px" %)Guenter Duckeck | ||
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198 | **Sustainable Programming & Implications / User ** | ||
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201 | )))|(% style="width:1011px" %) |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
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203 | |(% rowspan="4" %)**Motivation & Ethics **|(% style="width:1011px" %)((( | ||
204 | "Warum föderierte, standardsbasierte Infrastrukturen ethische Implikationen haben, sowohl was Vermeidung von Lock-in und ständiger Obszoleszenz betrifft als auch, was gleichen Zugang für alle, von Server- wie von Clientseite aus, angeht. (Abdeckung z.B. durch Markus Demleitner im Rahmen eines 10 Min Frühstückgesprächs möglich)" | ||
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206 | Why federated, standards-based infrastructures have ethical implications, both in terms of avoiding lock-in and constant obsolescence, as well as ensuring equal access for all, from both the server and client side. (Coverage, e.g., by Markus Demleitner in the context of a 10-minute breakfast discussion, is possible) | ||
207 | )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Markus Demleitner | ||
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209 | * RWTH Aachen AI Center Ethik Kommission: [[https:~~/~~/www.ai.rwth-aachen.de/cms/KI/Das-KI-Center/~~~~gglha/Team/>>url:https://www.ai.rwth-aachen.de/cms/KI/Das-KI-Center/~~gglha/Team/]] | ||
210 | ** [[Prof. h.c. Dr. h.c. Dr. ir. Wil van der Aalst>>url:https://www.pads.rwth-aachen.de/cms/pads/der-lehrstuhl/team/professor/~~pxtb/wil-van-der-aalst/]]: Fairness und Privacy | ||
211 | ** [[Prof. Dr. Saskia Nagel>>url:https://www.ethics.rwth-aachen.de/cms/ETHICS/Das-Lehr-und-Forschungsgebiet/Team/~~fcnwz/Saskia-Nagel/]] Ethics of AI, Impact of AI on Individuals and Society | ||
212 | ** [[Prof. Dr. rer. pol. Frank Piller>>url:https://www.time.rwth-aachen.de/cms/TIME/Die-Research-Area/Technologie-und-Innovationsmanagement-/TIM-Team/Lehrstuhlinhaber/~~eebc/Piller-Frank-T/]] Social Effects and Acceptance of AI | ||
213 | ** [[Prof. Dr. rer. nat. Astrid Rosenthal-von der Pütten>>url:https://www.itec.rwth-aachen.de/cms/ITEC/Der-Lehrstuhl/Team/~~szbg/Rosenthal-von-der-Puetten-Astrid/]] Human-Agent Interaction · Human and AI Shared Decision Making · Human-Robot Interaction · Social Effects and Acceptance of AI | ||
214 | ** [[Prof. Dr. Claudia Wagner>>url:http://claudiawagner.info/]] Natural Language processing · Network Science · Computational Social Science · Fairness of AI | ||
215 | * Benediktiner Pater Christoph Gerhard (Sustainability and ethics) | ||
216 | * Johannes Hartel (Sustainability and ethics) | ||
217 | * “Lesch sieht Schwartz” (zdf Harald Lesch und Pfarrer Thomas Schwartz) | ||
218 | * Prof. Dr. Dr. Wolfgang Rhode | ||
219 | )))|(% style="width:222px" %)Jan Bürger | ||
220 | |(% style="width:1011px" %)Invite someone from the Deutscher Ethikrat talking about assessment of technologies in the domain of “AI++”|(% style="width:222px" %)Achim Streit, Martin Erdmann, Thomas Kuhr, Judith Reindl | ||
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222 | |(% rowspan="2" %)**Politics & Stakeholder / Implementation **|(% style="width:1011px" %) |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
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224 | |(% rowspan="2" %)**Teaching & Science **|(% style="width:1011px" %) |(% style="width:222px" %) | ||
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